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Sindwiller · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: ASE Exporter

Hi everyone!

Ive found a new engine and its really cool. The only problem is the one, that i can't export directly from DeleD into .ase so i can use the model in the engine.

Wfr, Sindwiller
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afecelis · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject:

Ca3de uses its own level editor. An in-house modified version of tread3d's source. You should use that one to create content for the engine.
They used to work with hammer-worldcraft and a special work-around to use WAD library materials but now CaWed (their editor) does all the job and saves them from any legal issues they ran into using hammer.

Jeroen · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject:

I just took a look myself and I think he's doing a good job. The only drawback I see is that he doesn't seem to even want to consider other 3D modellers. CaWE it is, and nothing more. If he really wants his engine to be used by a very broad adience, he should open up for other 3D editors and fileformats. IMHO of course. Wink

Sindwiller · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject:

If you didnt noticed that, CaWe ist only the Level Editor. For basic lvl geometry, it must be used. For static models etc., you need a external modeler.

Well, im using DeleD as my modeler. So i export my models from DeleD into OBJ, then, with Blender into ASE. The problem is that i need too much time for exporting everything and there are too much problems with the models itself. For example, the Blender ASE exporter does not write a material. But CA3DE needs a material list to load textures. For another example, my last model didnt load. A user fixed my model (big thx to Thrawn! Very Happy

), but he dont know what made the error.

Wfr, Sindwiller
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afecelis · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:41 pm Post subject:

Ahhh! Now I get it! Wink

I forgot about Deled as a modeler! Embarassed

You're right. Deled is more than capable of producing outstanding models. Perhaps you'll have problems with texturing and uv mapping but it's always good to give it a try.
I guess you could model your stuff, export to obj and use this obj to ase converter:
http://users.skynet.be/fa201614/irrlicht/obj_to_ase.zip

btw: some interesting and cool tools there:
http://users.skynet.be/fa201614/irrlicht/index.htm

CMe · Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:18 am Post subject:

ASE is a pretty good format. It seems a few engines are using it. I'll look into writing an importer/exporter for that format. I'm sure quite a few people could find this format useful.
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Paul-Jan · Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:11 pm Post subject:

CMe: Sweet, that would be great.

Sindwiller · Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject:

CMe · Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject:

ok just a little progress info. I've got most of the exporter working. I'm using gile[s] as a test for loading the exported files as it has the ability to import .ase files. It actually took a while to find a program which can do this. So far everything is loading fine into it including materials.

Anyway it may take a little while to finish this. Not much info laying around for this format it seems. I'll grab CaWE at some point and test for compatibility regarding materials.

I'm starting to like this format quite a bit. multiple uv channels, face normals, smoothing groups, animation etc..
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Daaark · Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject:

CMe · Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject:

yeah I came across that tutorial from gametutorials while searching. They charge for those tutorials now. What I'd like to find is the actual file specifications document but no luck. I think I've found enough information now though.
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Daaark · Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject:

CMe · Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:47 pm Post subject:

no I was surprised wotsit doesn't have it. funny, those are the same two resources I found. I'm using the unreal one mainly.
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