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MrBiggles · Last edited by MrBiggles on Tue May 16, 2006 10:28 pm; edited 2 times in total

In the regular editor its fine, but whenever I export any of my models to a different program, this is what happens.

Whats going on with this?
That render was taken with Wings3D.
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hpesoj · DeleD PRO user Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 184

What are you exporting to? It's obviously a compatability problem between the DeleD exporter and Wings importer.

MrBiggles · Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject:

I export to a .obj file, then import it into Wings. But this happens with all my convertors, not just wings.
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jwatte · DeleD PRO user Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 513

Looks like you're either flipping the triangle winding order, or flipping between left- and right-handed coordinate systems.

Daaark · Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:20 pm Post subject:

It's winding order. Deled uses OpenGL, but uses the opposite winding order (than the default) and most programs use the default.

The obj exporter has this in the options.
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MrBiggles · Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:46 pm Post subject:

Aha, thank you.
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MrBiggles · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:54 am Post subject:

I have a new problem. Some of the faces for my model have the normals messed up, so that if culling is turned on, they will be filtered out. Also, in other programs, lighting is not shone on it, its just black. I have the polygon winding order reversed, so everything else works.... why is it that just these faces get culled? Did I do something wrong?

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Mr.Fletcher · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:44 am Post subject:

Afaik, Backface Culling has nothing to do with the passed normals of the polygon. Try disabling backface culling in DeleD (F5) to see, if they are culled there too. If so, go to polygon mode, select the backfaces and flip them.
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MrBiggles · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject:

Ah, the thing is I always work with backface culling off. So I've turned it back on, and all the areas I said were being culled are now being culled in DeleD as well. So now I'll just go back and flip them. Is there any way to prevent this from even happening in the first place? Flipping them is not a big Issue, but it is a bit tedious.
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Daaark · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject:

MrBiggles · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject:

Yea, your right. Thanks again! Very Happy

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Sindwiller · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject:

Thats a nice gun youve made there MrBiggles!

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MrBiggles · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject:

Thanks. Its supposed to look like this

Its based on the Vulcan Fury from Jak3. I made it for fun. Smile

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