DeleD Community Edition

[Jeroen]

Here you go, some more WIP:



Materials can have up to three layers. A layer is of a specific type: either Texture or Color. The materials 27 to 31 all have only one layer which is of type Color and have been assigned the colors you see on screen. Note: this means that these materials do not work with actual textures but with colors (which are transformed into real textures under the hood).

We're working to make the Material Editor look cool by adding nice material preview-images. You'll see... Next release is planned for next weekend (first week of januari).

[boschpj]

I think something went wrong. I didn't ment with shit it's garbage or rubbish but it's good stuff. I know Jeroen for a while now and have a deeply respect what he and others have made so far.

So I have to apologize for my choosen words and let's go on.


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[Jeroen]

Sure!

[PhilR2004]

Personally,

I would make the whole thing, freeware, to be quite honest. I mean, you can go out & spend tons of csh on a product that obviously could be buggy, yet might not all be...but seriously, if this engine is gonna be really good..make the thing worth downloading, instead of buying..example: Kid buys this thing, doesnt like it because it didnt look as promising, even with downloading the LITE version, you still cant tell much of the difference. Releasing the FULL version & making the product FREEWARE, is much of the best solution. Easy ways to do this, folks:

1. Release FULL 3D tool as FREEWARE!

2. Make it Open Source & if people wanna donate a couple of dollars to help continue the development of it, so be it.

3. You'll get more attention with this thing, making it a free product..but also for those who cant afford a product that might be $100-500..it would be a generous offer.


In conclusion...making this thing, FREE..helps not just me out..but it helps everyone out & they can even help make the program better by sending a small donation, say about..$15..to help keep the production of the program going.

Far Enough?

[khris]

tsk, do u read any of the other posts on this forum? i think it was discussed it would be around 30-50 Euros or something like that. its only fair these guys make a few bob outta it coz the guy that makes cartography shop squeezes £40 out of every downloader... making it freeware would give these guys loadsa publicity but if they wanna make money then its their choice, theyre the ones putting the time and effort into making this programme.

personally, bugs and all, id still fork out the cash to get the pro version of this, i was contemplating buying cshop or learning maya beforehand but im so glad i found this site. my two cents anyway.

khris

[Jeroen]

I think it's a matter of wether you believe in the freeware concept (with the ability to donate cash) or not. I only speak for myself when I say I do not really believe in that concept. Without wanting to start a whole discussion about the freeware concept: I'd really like to make a living out of creating applications like DeleD and I think the freeware concept won't allow me to do that. Sure, it would generate lots of attention, but I think especially people looking for free stuff would be interested. Nothing wrong with that but if you want to make a living out of it, you need paying customers who are enthousiastic about the program and want to get back for more and more. Selling a professional quality application for a very low price (indeed, khris was right, it's 50 euros and with that, one of the cheapest around) while providing constant help and feedback to users and providing them with additional stuff like textures/models will raise our chances of making a living out of it.

Bottom line: I don't really believe in the freeware concept so I choose to create a quality package and sell it for a very low price. I think that's fair enough.

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[Paul-Jan]

As far as I can see, the only real argument provided for making it freeware is "loads of publicity". Well then, why exactly would making it freeware give us loads of extra publicity? At this very moment, the only available DeleD version is free, like it has been for the past years.

In my opinion, you get more publicity by creating a better product, not by creating a free product. Getting a bit of money back from it to pay part of the bills, definitely shortens to path towards that better product

[edit]Phil, I just re-read your post... and now I realise you haven't bothered to find out what DeleD is. Some sites (like Flipcode) mistakenly advertised it as an engine, but it definitely isn't. We had an engine in development, called Parnassus, but that project was dropped due to lack of interest from the public. DeleD is a standalone 3D editor application. I now understand some of your obviously confused post [/edit]

[Daaark]

[Jeroen]

[boschpj]

Peronally I think users should pay for this tool. Nothing for free, what a left-wing crap. Users want to use a service provided by a team of developers. Those developers have to eat and computers still don't work on thin air. So €50 ,00 for "shit" like this is a fair price. And then, people should be rewarded for what they do.

If you really do not want to pay €50,00 for this tool, but got it burning in your pocket, send it to Asia and the cassualties of the tsunami.

Greetz
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[Paul-Jan]

I love the way this thread is running offtopic...

I am now printing out vampyre's post and pinning it to the wall. good stuff . D*mn, we really should have "post of the month" awards

[Jeroen]

Well, as soon as we go PRO I think we should start thinking about having (monthly-weekly-whatever) contests. Problem is: what should be the reward? You tell us!

[Daaark]

Funny man responds with more episodes. And this http://www.londonstimes.us/toons/cartoons/richdiesslin_paypal.gif

[Jeroen]