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abcd · Member Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 10

I have had the lite version on my computer for about a month now and can't seem to get anything done. It is very frustrating.

Shift and left click never seems to select anything.

Right now I am going through this tutorial

http://www.delgine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2087

step by step but all that happens is that the button reverts from polygon mode (the triangle) back to create mode (the cube.) I click once in the centre of the created object while holding down the shift button and nothing happens. I've tried all sorts of things; edges of the cube, different windows but nothing turns red.

Is there any way for the programmers to change the selection from shift click to straight forward left click? Most other 3d programs manage that without any problems.

case_ncty · DeleD PRO user Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 50

to select an object you have to be in 'OBJECT MODE ' (the mode looking like a cube ion the edit panel)

when the object is selected it may turn red or whatever color you choose in the options you can then see is vertices in 3D View instead of the plain textured view

when the object is selected you can switch to other edit mode.

you can't select an edit mode like vertice or face editing if you don't previously selected an object

http://www.delgine.com/wiki/index.php/Create_/_Edit_Panel

deled is pretty simple .being at this point from about a month is surprising

Mr.Fletcher · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: Getting nowhere

santutatu · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: Getting nowhere

At the bottom of this page it's the vid version of that tutorial, you might find it useful, about selecting objects, first be sure that you are in the object mode, then you have to HOLD down the shift and then, press on the object with the left click, if you wanna select two or more objects, to that process add the ctrl holding it down as you're doing with the shift (so it's something like this SHIFT+ctrl+leftclick on various objects). About selecting faces, polys, and vertexes, it's exactly the same. Wink

abcd · Member Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 10

Thanks for the replies.

I think I'll leave it for a while and maybe check back again later if the program gets upgraded. It looks a very useful piece of software and obviously people are doing amazing things with it. However, ease of use is high on my list and if I have to get in depth help on the most simplest of things for any programme that rings alarm bells for me.

Mr.Fletcher · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject:

Once you've learned to select things and what edit modes are about, things aren't more complicated than other programs. Basically, it's just an extra key you've got to hold for selecting things.
By which I don't want to play down the fairly complicated use of DeleD, there's still plenty of space to improve here.
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Daaark · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject:

Odd. DeleD is the easiest 3D software I have ever used.

The cube is not 'create mode'. It's object mode. It deals with commands on an entire object, instead of one of the things (verts, edges, polygons) that make up the object.

Anything you need help with, you can just ask here. Even if it's a 'stupid question', someone will be more than happy to answer you. This is a very friendly and patient community.

Starnick · DeleD PRO user Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 611

There are some annoyances, but I agree - DeleD has to be one of the easiest 3D modelers out there control-wise.

Coty · Member Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 30

fangelico · Member Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 86 Location: ARGENTINA

abcd · Member Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 10

Hi again.

Just to say that I spent some more time with the program after comments from this topic and am now getting a little further with it. Although I still argue that the process of selection and manipulation is overly complicated.

Once you're "in" it is easier to work, but the initial stumbling block shouldn't be there in the first place.

Thanks for the comments.

fangelico · Member Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 86 Location: ARGENTINA

Paul-Jan · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject:

ABCD: Thank you for posting your initial problems with our choice to use shift-click as a selection mechanism.

We don't take switching selection mechanisms lightly (as it might alienate all our current users who have been used to shift-click for years... and allowing the application to switch between the two mechanisms is not an option as far as I'm concerned), but we have had similar signals from new users before, so at some point we might actually consider to switch.

What does everybody think?

fangelico · Member Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 86 Location: ARGENTINA

Im used to it.
But it would be nice for newcomers to have that option, and it would feel more intuitive.
The critical question is : it would be turned on as default ?
cheers

elementrix · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject:

Don't switch, my arms/hands are completely grown into the DeleD Shift/control use, I would hate it when it would switch Razz

(you could do that you can use or shift or something else in the options menu)
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