DeleD Community Edition

[chronozphere]

Hey guy's

I managed to drag my Scene-Inspector to the bottom of the screen. Every time i try to drag it back, my taskbar moves up, making it impossible to drag the window.

I know about DeleD.ini, and i tried to change/delete it, but weird enough it doesn't make any difference. I can still change the settings while DeleD.ini is renamed, and DeleD still remembers the settings and never complains. I have the feeling that the settings are stored somewhere else but i can't figure out where. I allready scanned the whole register, but couldn't find anything pointing in the right direction. Even rebooting didnt help.

I also moved all contents of the DeleD Pro folder to some other location. Even then, DeleD just started with my settings. DeleD only complains when i move the exe and start it from another location.

I know. It doesn't make sense, but it's what i've concluded after 30 mins of frustration.

HELP!!............ (pleasse...)

Thanks

I'm running DeleD 1.81 with Vista Ultimate.

[Paul-Jan]

It's a Vista thing. You installed DeleD into the default program files folder. Nothing wrong with that, but the moment you modify DeleD.ini, it gets virtualized. Your user isn't allowed to actually write into that folder, so Vista creates a shadow-copy in our user folder on the fly.

You'll find DeleD.ini at C:\Users\username\AppData\VirtualStore\Program Files\DeleD\deled.ini (or similar).

Yes, this is of course something our installer should handle differently. We are still discussing the best place though, perhaps we should focus on making sure the users do not need to know where DeleD.ini is located first.

p.s. As a programmer, you might want to get your hands dirty with tools like filemon. Vista's Folder virtualization would still have been an enigma on first encounter, but at least you'd have known where your files had gone.

[chronozphere]

Aaaaaahhrgh..

I was allready thinking it was another strange vista "feature" getting in my way. I wonder why this is neccesary. I think this virtualization is crap because it overcomplicates things and can be a source of frustration (in my case). Yeah, it's safer and more fullproof, but i'd rather have a transparent what-you-see-is-what-you-get OS.

I'm deffo going back to XP.

But, thanks for your answer. Really helpfull.

[Starnick]

Yeah, I recently upgraded to Vista, and had the same exact problem -but- with textures.

It is bit of a hassle, but I notice more and more games/apps move their user data in your user folder, and I'm starting to rather like it, rather than leaving my files in the various nooks and crannies of my file system.

Though, I haven't been using DeleD as much as, so it hasn't really frustrated me much heh, though I still have to do some cleaning up of old transfer stuff from my old harddrive (besides going with vista, I upgraded to a nice 500 GB harddrive ).

[Daaark]

[chronozphere]

I don't want(ed) to sound like a n00b. But i just didn't know about this feature, and i still don't completely understand why it's there.

From my point of view, Something that should work, suddenly doesn't work, because the OS has some feature that's making copies of things so that normal actions you perform in the explorer don't have the desired effect. In my opinion, editing a file should just modify file itsself and have a predictable effect on the programs using the file.

[Daaark]

[Daaark]

If you want to 'fix' this, install DeleD into your user folder, or right click on the DeleD folder in the program files, and give your account full read / write access.
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[chronozphere]

Okay... Thanks for the detailed explanation.

Firstly I'll take back the things i said in the my second post because they are clearly not appropriate.

Obviously you were referring to my coding skill, because my offer to help developing DeleD. I did that offer purely because i would like to help, and not because i thought i was an experienced coder and valuable for the development of DeleD. By looking at your explanation and foundations of your argumentation, you are probably more suitable for such a job.

You have to know that i'm programming for 5 years (seems long to me, but might be short compared to your experience) and that i never executed any of my code inside a folder/drive that had this kind of virtualization enabled. I also never forced myself to read about things i wasn't working on. That's why i didn't know about it until now, and i was baffled by the idea that a basic thing as editing a file didn't have the desired effects. I've never had any programming lessons, and learned everything by myself. You probably expected me to be more experienced, because i might have given such an impression.

I just hope everything is clear and that you can take me seriously in the future.

Chronozphere.

BTW: I installed DeleD on the E: drive which doesn't make shadow copies of it's subfolders.

[Daaark]