DeleD Community Edition

[Grandmaster B]

Hi tpascal,

i see that youre willing to help on the quest, be sure that you are most welcome!

I agree on what you wrote, especially that we need some kind of vision, documentation and management.

[afecelis]

wow wow wow wow wow!
J and PJ......I'm totally speechless..... but happy as hell as this will benefit the indie scene enormously.

All I can say is congratz for not being selfish and keeping deled to yourselves and rather making such a generous move.

I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision to make, but I'm glad you're making the right one. As usual, this only increases my admiration for you and your program. I just wish I were an uber programmer and was able to help some more, but I'm sure I'll be there on the testing side

who said merry xmas?

love ya guys.

Alvaro

[ThatMan]

if pro becomes open source can we still download it from this site
and will any changes to it after that help with x file support since its alittle buggy

[Paul-Jan]

@Afecelis... Thanks for the appreciation, mate...

@ThatMan: This site will link (and probably host, but it doesn't really matter) to the up to date downloadable DeleD binaries (executable and/or full installer), yes.

What changes will be made when is not something I can say beforehand. How open source works is that people report issues in the issue tracker, other people support or vote on those issues, and volunteer programmers (and other contributors to the project) decide on which to pick up first.

What this basically means is that the more "important" an issue seems to the people contributing to the project, the sooner it tends to get fixed. The .X exporter is quite essential functionality, so I'd say chances are pretty good someone will pick them up quickly

However, next to the formal issue tracker (which is the most direct place to report issues), we'll definitely keep the forums open for issues and suggestions. Volunteers will pick up the stuff from here and put it into the tracker.

So basically, nothing will change in the way things will be handled, except for the facts that:
a) It won't be just Jeroen and me who decide what things get done first
b) With more people working on the project, things will move along faster.

[Daniel]

Great to see this happening, blender followed the same route and see where it got them. Tho I have a word of warning:

One of the main reasons people like Deled is the way it keeps things simple, I still use Deled for all simple base meshes over Blender just because I don't have to worry about difficult things. Please keep Deled's
nature/origin alive.
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A game is what you make of it;)

Dutch since 1992.

[chronozphere]

@Daniel: That's true, therefore I think we should focus on improving existing features (CSG, texture-mapping) instead of trying to add a whole new shader/material system.

[NohBahDih]

YAHSHUA YHWH GOD BLESS you,

Whoa, i leave for a bit, kept busy reading books on Game Development at DeVry, animation, etc. etc. etc., leave for a while, next thing i know you are "giving the application" away (not meaning this in a "bad" way). i think i still owe you a tank (from one of the "everyone models threads") which i am still hoping to do but in low poly Zbrush style.

If my programming skills were not so weak, the language was C#, and i was not a "one man team" that is basically not sleeping a lot to get what little i do get done, done, i would help but i am all ready nearly a year into getting you that tank.

i was using TGEA/TGE (but never got any sort of game going or beyond crashes) but have been looking at XNA and Unity. There is some interest at Unity that just started, so you might look there for programmer help; i barely got a 2D game started in XNA, so i am obviously not very good at programming.

Meanwhile, i just thought i would "stop in" and let you know that some of the Unity people were looking and you might like to know.

Dih

edit: oh by the way, has there been any new releases of the Torque exporter?

[zumwalt]

Delphi is easy language, it is based on the original Pascal engine, back in the day, that fit on a 3 and 1/2 " floppy, 720k disk at that, SS/SD, Delphi is actually easier to program in than C++ honestly. Unfortunately at current I don't have a copy of it anymore that I know of, I had Delphi 7 before I moved, don't know where the CD's are anymore. I don't know what your business model is for moving this forward once you go open source, I just hate to see this product die.

[Paul-Jan]

Unless you concider "keeping the project alive" a valid business proposition, there is no business model in the sense of economical value being generated. We will spend no less time on the project than we do now, and we can directly leverage the manpower from a couple of volunteers for project management from the start, so from that perspective the chances of the project "surviving" are definitely increasing as a result of DeleD going Open Source.

Having an OS project with a technical lockin with a programming language that itself is not free is perhaps not optimal, but should not turn into a showstopper. There are plenty of people with access to Delphi out there. We are also looking at feasible ways to making the 2006 explorer edition available, plus we are investigating making the source cross-compilable into FPC/Lazarus (which is 100% free and open).

[zarfius]

This is some interesting news.

I'm a programmer and a DeleD Pro user. I can say that while DeleD is great I have found that I still end up writing my own tools for many tasks. It'd be great to be able to build them directly into the editor to make life that much easier.

That said, I'd like to see the code first before committing to anything

[oliebol]

[oliebol]

[chronozphere]

Hey guys

I noticed that the source is available in the repository at Sourceforge. I downloaded it this morning and I started to analyze it. I think PJ and Jeroen did a terrific job. The code is nicely structured and the names used are quite descriptive.

But I think we still need some documentation about the following topics:
> Setting up DeleD and compiling it
> Scene orginization: Classes and types
> Tool orginization: Classes and types
> Rendering and viewports

Learning how something works from the source can be very time consuming, so IMHO writing these docs should have a high priority.

Moreover, we need to some figure out:
> Who is doing what?
> How to keep track of changes?
> How do we use SVN? Branches, tags etc..
> Where to put documentation? (Wiki probably)
> Maybe some coding guidelines..

Anyone?

P.S: I know how to work with SVN (The basics), but I have never participated in such a big project. I need to learn how to organize loads of source files, how to merge branches etc... Does anyone know a good tutorial?

[tpascal]

[trucker2000]