DeleD Community Edition

[paul_nicholls]

Hi guys,
I have a patch for the current version of DeleD CE (version 6) which should add in y-axis rotation around the world origin or the first selected object origin.

See this item:

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2924593&group_id=293758&atid=1241130

This happens in 3d mode when using right mouse + ctrl + alt and dragging left or right.

First you put the object you wish to rotate around into the 3d view.

If the object isn't in the center of the world, then you can select it to rotate around that object.

Otherwise the default, no objects selected mode is to rotate around the world origin.

Anyone wish to try it to see what they think?

The patch should affect these files:

Forms/frm3dView.pas
Units/unit_Cameras.pas

Here is the patch file (inside quotes)

EDIT: updated to latest code changes.

[chronozphere]

Great work paul. Can't wait to see this feature in the new release.

I still need to deliver my first patch. I'm working on it.

[paul_nicholls]

Hi all,
I have made some small changes to the code to neaten/shorten it a bit.

I am quite happy with the result so far, so would anyone have an issue if I try checking in my change directly to the DeleD CE codebase?

Then others can just update their code to insert my change if they want to live 'on the bleeding edge' LOL

PLEASE let me know!

cheers,
Paul
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[Paul-Jan]

I say "go". I really appreciate how you took the effort of creating a patch first (gave as a chance to run through the patching process, yay), but I wouldn't mind you committing directly into the code base either. I say we have plenty of experience with your contributions.

[tpascal]

[paul_nicholls]

[paul_nicholls]

[paul_nicholls]

Hear ye, hear ye...come one, come all....

the initial version of the turn-table 3d rotation has been committed to the DeleD CE codebase, so fee free to check out the code and try it out

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=1241130&aid=2924593&group_id=293758

I have included the instructions as a comment in the tracker item, but here they are again:

[Jeroen]

Excellent work paul - keep it up!
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[tpascal]

[Paul-Jan]

As an experiment, I have created two groups inside tracker to aid with documentation:
- Next Release - means done and will be present in the next binary release
- Next Release - Needs Doc - means done, will be present in the next binary release, but needs documenting in wiki/help files.

I marked this feature with the second category.

When we do a binary release, we can simple sort on these two groups inside tracker and then either document them (using your text from the comments) fully or a add a single line to the changelog.

We still have to recruit someone to do the actual documenting, but at least we'll be able to actually find the issues inside tracker.

[paul_nicholls]

That's a great idea PJ

I looked for any changes that had happened to the tracker item after I was emailed about changes, but I didn't notice that change.. LOL

This was prior to looking at THIS topic update haha

EDIT: perhaps it might be a good idea for the person who initially adds the feature request does the documentation in the wiki?

How does the help get updated though?

cheers,
Paul
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[Paul-Jan]

I'd really really prefer to decouple writing documentation from requesting and/or coding stuff. I know a lot of developers who can't write proper sensible english if their life depends on it (mostly because their native language is very different) who would much rather write code. Other people (like Nocturn for instance) can write very clear documentation on stuff other people created.

I think the best solution would be
- anyone is encouraged to document their own stuff
- one or two people are end-responsible and check whether everything new/changed is documented properly, and fix/add where necessary.

Now all we need to do is recruit those "one or two" people and we are set.

The help files themselves are something we need to discuss. The help files are in sourceforge so anyone can go in and edit them, and we can do a build of the chm each time we update the binaries. Then again, the information in there is more or less a duplicate of what we want to write in the wiki, and the wiki is REALLY REALLY open. I've seen projects where they generate the documentation straight from the wiki, and while I like the idea, that is a lot of work to setup, and the end-results are not always the most practical help files (*cough* delphi 2010 *cough*).

[paul_nicholls]

Hi PJ,
ok, that's fair enough.

I'm not that good at doing documentation myself (*cough*) LOL

Thanks for the update

cheers,
Paul
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[chronozphere]

It works great paul! Thanks you for this.

You could improve the feature by letting the user go "all around" the model instead of moving in a fixed circle. You could utilize the Y-coordinate of the mouse to achieve vertical movement (this would be a rotation about the X-axis in screen space). I did exactly the same for the first versions of my UV-plugin (now It has a free camera).

About the docs. I'm one of the programmers who is willing to write his own documentation (It will be simple and to the point, so I can concentrate on code).