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paul_nicholls · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:45 pm Post subject: What to name new tool?

Hi all,
I don't know if you have been following this post:

http://www.delgine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4168

but I have decided to add in a new tool that will 'warp' a primitive (grid, sphere, etc.) using noise (perlin, or fbm).

This means we can turn a flat grid into a chunk of terain, or a sphere type primitive into a round-ish rock, asteroid, planet, etc.

Anyway, I am thinking of calling the tool "Warp", and it can work on selected vertices, or a whole primitive...

Does this sound ok?

Please give feedback Smile

cheers,
Paul
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fik · Member Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 303

I think this will be a great addition as a Tool maybe the name could be Distort a bit more descriptive ,but warp is good. Very Happy

paul_nicholls · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:34 pm Post subject:

Ok, how about a vote Smile

1. Warp
2. Distort
3. Other name (suggest)

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AWM Mars · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:55 pm Post subject:

Warp gets my vote... to warp is to distort anyway..
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paul_nicholls · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:58 am Post subject:

Hi all,
I have now added a 'Warp' command (for whole selected primitives only ATM).

This will allow you to warp the selected primitives and create asteroids, terrain patches, etc.

For 'round' objects, you can select 'Outwards' for the warp direction, otherwise you can select the appropriate axis direction for flat objects (X+, Y-, Z+, etc).

It does work 'better' for round objects than flat sometimes, so the code may need some tweeking, but it is pretty good still I think Smile

I had some trouble with the Button on the frame so I moved it up to the top.

This was because in the default position, the button was overwriting some of the labels (yuck).

I have also added a 'W' hotkey to do Warp like Move and Scale...

Do people want me to check it in, or do a patch?

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chronozphere · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:38 am Post subject:

Waaaaaiiit.. I haven't commented on this one. Laughing

I'd definitely call it noise. To me warp sounds like stretching or bending geometry in a controlled way, not distort it. Also, this function is called noise in other populair 3d packages like 3ds max. Smile

Just my $0.02. Wink

P.S: It's great that you have managed to put this in. Very usefull tool Very Happy

It would be a good idea to let the user warp along the vertex normals. This will work for any kind of geometry. Cool

P.P.S: I'm actually amazed that DeleD didn't allready have this. Smile

paul_nicholls · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:15 am Post subject:

paul_nicholls · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:28 am Post subject:

Ok all, the tool name has been changed from Warp to Noise, it now uses the vertex normals of the primitives (no direction value required), and can be accessed via the 'N' key, or by the usual clicking on the button Smile

I have now checked in the changes...

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2971655&group_id=293758&atid=1241130

I will write some detailed instructions soon Smile

Enjoy!

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AWM Mars · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:37 am Post subject:

Actually noise maping is a way of producing say terrains in Blender, similar to height mapping etc etc.. seems there is a lot of terms used for it..
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chronozphere · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:38 pm Post subject:

Great!

fik · Member Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 303

Nice tool. But I use turbo Delphi and it does not have a TSpinedit component so this dosen't work for me. Sad

From what I see I like the control you have given over the generated noise. I think it would be nice if it had option to perform movement by axis or by normal though.
Bit like my old plugin did (But it only had a random noise not a nice perlin noise). Much nicer to have tools intergrated.

chronozphere · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:49 pm Post subject:

Huh? is that a window created by the noise tool? Confused

Why is it not in the properties panel? IMHO all tools should be put there.

And yeah.. It would help if everything would remain D7 compliant, like PJ requested. I use turbo delphi myself too, so I would have the same problem.

fik · Member Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 303

No thats a pic of my old plugin as reference Smile

as to what I mean.

paul_nicholls · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:13 pm Post subject:

fik · Member Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 303

Is a bit of a pain, you have to use a tedit and a up/down but I am working on a cure for this http://www.delgine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4172 Wink

How I used axis was If the axis was selected it moved +/- in that direction so if only X was checked vertex was free to move +/- that axis only. And all 3 checked It would move in all 3.