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[Yokom]

Im attempting to do a level in the scale of 1unit = 1 meter. The aspect ratio and near clip plane of the camera isnt well suited for the scale im using and not sure how using a bigger scale and the reducing it to release it will work.

I looked though the options and didnt find how to change the camera fov and clip distance, is there a way to do this?

[Jeroen]

Hi there Yokom, and welcome to these forums! DeleD doesn't have functionality to change the camera fov and clipping distance. Are there other ways to achieve what you want?

[Yokom]

[Paul-Jan]

All exporters have a scale option just for that reason. What is the problem with working in a scale that is convenient in the editor, and use the scale option to adjust it to ogre scale? That is what is what made for.

[Yokom]

[Paul-Jan]

I am definitely not suggesting you use a different scale for everything. I am just suggesting you use ONE scale (say 64 units is one meter) throughout DeleD, and ONE conversion rate (1/64) to your engine. I understand using 1 unit for one meter might be a little bit easier, but there is definitely no additional layer of complexity as far as "converting everything to the scale of your modeler" goes: you always have to do so anyway.

Also, it seems you really seem to expect the FOV functionality to be there. May I ask what editors you used before that did offer it? (it would be nice for us to take a peek at their implementation)

[Yokom]

Wings3d, maya, 3dsmax, solidworks, autocad im pretty sure blender also and most other quality 3d modelers.

I mean really Paul i dont want to get in a pissing match with you this is a pretty standard feature in 3d editors. I love the tool and what it does and ill workaround it if you think im out of line for asking about this but please dont try to make it sound like im a noob when it comes to 3d modelers ive looked around in 5 or 6 of them looking for the right tool for the job. This tool is good for level design and for level design scale is really important. I mean if you use 100 units = 1 meter in the modler its not to bad as you just have to keep moving the point. But you make even that a bit hard with the grid lines all being set up on powers of 2 so its hard to quickly line up objects to the grid lines if you use a good scale that is in powers of 10 not 2.

Now i understand your a programmer and doing things in powers of 2 might be second nature for you but this is indeed an artist tool and most artist are not that good at fast math. So to quicky say in your head my scale is 100 to 1 and the grid box is 64 units so to make my object 3 meters wide i need 300 units and that is 300 divided by 64.. well do you get the point we need to be able to use the grid lines and the scale to our advantage not as a disadvantage. The main reason i bought this tool was the ease and speed at witch i could do levels and texture them the grid and scale setup distracts from that.

[Paul-Jan]

I never was any good in pissing matches anyway (I have a serious aiming problem), so let's not

But seriously, sorry if I made you feel defensive about this (now that I re-read them my posts don't come across as awefully friendly, sorry about that ), we take your request for FOV functionality very seriously (hence me asking for implementation references). I have added it to the todo-list, and will discuss the when-to-implement with Jeroen.

From your second remark I gather you would like to request "gridlines at any resolution" functionality as well ? I have added it to our todo-list.

If you have any additional requests and/or questions, please ask away (here or at the pro forums).

[Daaark]

[Paul-Jan]

Actually, I changed the selection in the combobox from normal to high priority

(oh, and six months ago it was Jeroen who put it there, so technically I wasn't lying )

[Yokom]