DeleD Community Edition

gcatso · Member Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 9

The df2 modding community needs to be able to edit .3di files to change models of items in the game and still after many years there isn't one. It would be greatly appreciated if someone could check out the .3di file format and see if they can make a plugin to be able to view and edit them. So if anyone is interested please say so and I will upload some sample files. Thanks

Jeroen · Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:05 pm Post subject:

Hi there gcatso, and welcome! But excuse my ignorance, but what is df2?

How big is this community? Got some forum we could check out? I've been at mapmakersheaven.com (i believe it was) already. If this community is big enough, we might just create a plugin or 2 to support it. Smile

hpesoj · DeleD PRO user Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 184

Delta Force 2 I believe from a quick google. And here are the details for the 3Di format. The format doesn't look too complex at all, I may have a bash at it seeing as I have been looking for a plugin to make for DeleD Razz

. It doesn't look like an easy format to export, seeing as it is quite specialised to it's use. Do you need an export plugin?

http://www.artwork.com/package/apd3d/3Di_2.htm

gcatso · Member Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 9

Hi, thanks for responding so quickly. At any given time there are probably 500 - 1000 players online in Delta Force 2, it's no BF2 or doom3 but still many play it. Some links are:
www.mapmakersheaven.com - df2 modding site, these folks would appreciate it a whole lot
http://mods.terranova-exp.com/forums/ - other novalogic games mod forums, i'd say about 50% of these people used to play df2 and some would love to make a df2 mod
www.dfbarracks.com - novalogic games site with many users
The thing we need to do is be able to import the 3di file, edit, then export as .3di (or just make new ones and skip importing, but import would be nice Very Happy

) so we can use it in the game. Lots of people like the gameplay of df2 better than their newer games (such as Delta force: blackhawk down, Joint Operations, Delta force: reloaded) but have moved on because of the lack of mods and that is because its impossible to edit the item models thus far. I'd be willing to bet that some of those people would come back if they saw some real mods that have new items.
some 3di samples: http://home.ripway.com/2005-7/342913/3di_samples.zip

Jeroen · Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:26 pm Post subject:

Sure sounds interesting. Smile

Do you have more sites that describe the format? Preferably with some example code.

gcatso · Member Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 9

I'm afraid not. And, sadly, I don't think http://www.artwork.com/package/apd3d/3Di_2.htm is the same thing because that page says that format is for companies that work with integrated circuits but, I'm not sure.

Is it even possible if you don't have the file structure? Because I'm not sure Novalogic ever told anyone.

Daaark · Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject:

Seems a lot of people use the 3di extension for a lot of things. Why not ask the DeltaForce developpers for the file spec.

I looked on Wotsit.org, didn't see anything.

Daaark · Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject:

Someone has the spec, because there are old forum posts talking about people making loaders that allow you to view the mesh and textures. (google 3di spec novalogic)

gcatso · Member Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 9

People have asked the developers before and never get any help. Novalogic is very secretive about the format for some reason.

About that 3DiViewer. The maker of that has stopped development on that some years ago unfortunately but that tool would allow you to view textures and it would show you some dots that formed the model but you couldnt edit the model, only the textures.

Daaark · Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject:

gcatso · Member Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 9

That guy hasnt been seen for 4 years and last time I tried emailing him it failed Crying or Very sad

Daaark · Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:22 pm Post subject:

gcatso · Member Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 9

someone who knows more about the format is on his way over to tell you what he knows about it.

hpesoj · DeleD PRO user Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 184

Lol, I missed the bit about it being for ICs Razz

, I thought it sounded a bit limiting for a 3D model format.

Daaark · Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:13 pm Post subject:

Well, I can help and I can't.

Some guy named Chester PMed me all the details of a 3di loader. And I'm not allowed to post it here, because he thinks you guys will use it for evil. Confused

Which begs the question of why it was even sent to me to begin with.

Sad

I never signed up to code the thing, I'm just good at helping track things down.

Ain't that a bitch?

Laughing

What to do... what to do... It's funny how in some games, the guys who write the loaders release them, and the modding community flourishes into something great, adn then you have gys in some games who want to keep it all to themselves, because other people "will use it for evil".