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nextdoorscat · DeleD PRO user Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 187

Sorry to say that I am having great trouble getting started at all with DeleD modelling. Sad

I created a polyline shape, which immediately created polygons within it. I am now trying to extrude the shape to turn it into a 3D object. In the help it says

Daaark · Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject:

Use control + shfit to select more than one polygone. Or drag a box.

I just tried to extrude a polylined object. Worked fine. I made a box like shape, and extrude 4 walls up out of it. The normals were off, but that can be fixed by flipping them.

nextdoorscat · DeleD PRO user Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 187

Maybe this is where I am going wrong... my polylined object is a plane. I am trying to give it depth by extruding. Is this possible?

Daaark · Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject:

nextdoorscat · DeleD PRO user Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 187

Hmmm, cant upload images here... will have to find someone with webspace if I am to post it here.

But basically mine is a rectangular plane with a door shape cut out of it. I wanted to extrude it into a tunnel-like 3D shape. The plane has divided itself into several large triangular polygons.

I am wondering if my mistakes are being made by how I click and drag. I am selecting the entire plane by holding down shift and dragging a dotted line selection box all around it in the Front view. It turns white when selected. Then in either the top or side view (where the plane shows as a white straight line) I am trying to click on it and drag it out sideways to get the depth. But nothing appears or happens.

Hope this helps.

Jeroen · Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:34 am Post subject:

It's perfectly possible to create a tunnel the way you want to. Here's what you can do:

- create your polyline in the TOP view
- goto Polygon mode
- press CTRL-A to select all polygons (they turn red) or use CTRL+SHIFT+click to select each individual polygon by hand
- then use the Extrude function in the FRONT or SIDE view

When extruding polygons, the new polygons are moved along their normals by default. Use CTRL to move in any direction. This explains why you didn't see any change when you extruded in the TOP view: the polygons were actually extruded but trying to move polygons created in the XZ plane along their normals in the TOP view won't actually move them because moving along their normals means movement along the Y-axis while the TOP view only supports movement in the X-Z directions. This is why you have to use Extrude in either the FRONT or SIDE views (in this particular example). Smile

Note: when using this technique, the resulting 3D object will have invisible polygons inside itself. That's because every triangle being extruded will create multiple polygons aside it. Delete those polygons by hand if needed. Also note that with DeleD 1.3, this will all be made much easier with the upcoming CSG routines. Smile

edit: typo+more text

nextdoorscat · DeleD PRO user Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 187

Thanks... it worked perfectly, but has caused another problem. The extruded object was not solid. It only has one solid side (the polyline end) the rest of it is not solid. I tried using the 'flip' command but this did not work. I also used the 'F5' command but that made no difference, only made the object shaded white. How can I fix this?

nextdoorscat · DeleD PRO user Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 187

OK I also hit another problem. I tried extruding a polyline object following the instructions above, but this time I had another cube in there as well.

When I did CTRL - A to select all polygons in the polyline, they only turned red for the time I had the keys down. When I let go of the keys the red disappeared and the cube was selected (went white). When I did CTRL - A again, it toggled back to the polyline, but this time nothing turned red.

Help!

granada · Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:43 pm Post subject:

Hi nextdoorscat
Maybe a few pics of what your trying to do will help us to help you Very Happy

Dave
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nextdoorscat · DeleD PRO user Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 187

I dont have anywhere to put pics online, and cannot upload them here. Can I email them to you?

granada · Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:02 pm Post subject:

You can put them here,its free & they allow direct linking Very Happy

http://photobucket.com/
Dave
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Jeroen · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:01 am Post subject:

nextdoorscat · DeleD PRO user Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 187

Hmm, I went inside the object, and it still did not look solid from the inside. Currently preparing some screenies so you can have a look...

Ref the other problem, it is most likely that is is me that is doing it wrong, but will wait for 1.3 and try again, to save wasting too much of your time, haha!

nextdoorscat · DeleD PRO user Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 187

OK here's what I did. As you can see the front face of the wall is missing, so it looks like a box with some diagonal planes in there. Flipping and F5 did not help solve the problem...

BTW I extruded to the left in the side view. I dont know if that makes a difference, or was the cause of the problem.

Jeroen · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:14 am Post subject:

I just created a simular wall+door using the same technique without problems in DeleD 1.22 PRO. Are you sure you have your object selected when applying the Flip command? Also, be sure to use the Extrude command properties (select keep & flip original polygon).

Note: F5 is only used for culling purposes and is not related to your situation. Smile