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grahama
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:20 pm    Post subject: Ok, I'm new and already stuck! Reply with quote

How on earth do you move things?

I've got some walls I made:
On top view I can move the walls left / right (left and right)
but not up/down (back and forward)

On front view I can move the walls left / right (left and right)
but not up/down (up and down)

On side view I can't move the walls left / right (forwards and back)
or not up/down (up and down)


the above is with the mouse, with the keyboard (arrow keys) I can do both directions on side view and on the top / front view I can only go left / right.

So side view works as expected. I'm probably being stupid, as I'm new, any pointers?
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grahama
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now I feel stupid, I had restrict to X set...

but the question remains, when restrict to X was set, why was the side view allowing me to move in both th Y and Z axis?

Cheers,

Anthony
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elementrix
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but the question remains, when restrict to X was set, why was the side view allowing me to move in both th Y and Z axis?


i also made a box and then set X but my side view doesnt allow me to move so i think you have done something wrong?
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Jeroen
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Ok, I'm new and already stuck! Reply with quote

grahama wrote:
I've got some walls I made:
On top view I can move the walls left / right (left and right)
but not up/down (back and forward)

On front view I can move the walls left / right (left and right)
but not up/down (up and down)

On side view I can't move the walls left / right (forwards and back)
or not up/down (up and down)


Hi there grahama and welcome to these forums! Smile

You're experiencing the nature of the 2D views. As the name 2D view already implies, you can only move in 2 directions in 3D space when you're editing in the 2D views. The Top view, for example, allows you to move in the direction of the X-axis (left/right) and Z-axis (depth). You cannot move stuff in the direction of the Y axis (up/down; height). If you want that, use the Front view or Side view. They allow the XY-axis and ZY-axis respectively.

Rotation is another story: if you want to rotate something about the Y-axis, use the Top (XZ) view. Rotating something about the Z-axis is done in the Front (XY) view. Rotating about the X-axis is done in the Side (ZY) view. Notice a pattern here?

To summarize:

Top XZ view: movement in X and Z directions, rotation about Y-axis.
Front XY view: movement in X and Y directions, rotation about Z-axis.
Side ZY view: movement in Z and Y directions, rotation about X-axis.

If you restrict movement using the Restriction XYZ buttons, you can limit movement to allow precise movement in one direction only. For example, if you restrict yourself to X-movement, moving something in the Top view (which allows X-movement) will move it along the X-axis only, and not the Z-axis.

This is standard behaviour in a 3D modeling package and might need a bit getting used too when you're first starting out. Goodluck! Smile
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grahama
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Thanks for the detailed response, I have used several packages before (Amapi, truSpace, milkshape3d)

I was expecting to be able, as you said, to be able to move in two directions, but could only move in one.

I then realised that I had "restrict to X" set which meant that I could only move in one (so it was me being thick).

The only thing I didn't understand was:
The restrict to X was only affecting 2 of the 3 views. I cannot reproduce this effect:

When restrict to X was set, on the side view you could move in both the Y and Z.
So to summerise with restrict to X on:
Top view CAN move X, and CANNOT move Z
Front view CAN move X and CANNOT move Y
Side View **CAN** Move Z and **CAN** Move Y (Despite Restrict To X being set, which should mean you can only move in the X axis...)

This was fixed by restarting the application, which also fixed all the CSG options being greyed out (another person has had that problem too see thread "CSG Union and Lite Version").

Seems to be behaving itself now, wish I could figure out what caused it.

How do I get "Deled Pro User" on my details over there <---- ?

Thanks,

- Anthony
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Jeroen
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grahama wrote:
The only thing I didn't understand was:
The restrict to X was only affecting 2 of the 3 views. I cannot reproduce this effect:

When restrict to X was set, on the side view you could move in both the Y and Z.
So to summerise with restrict to X on:
Top view CAN move X, and CANNOT move Z
Front view CAN move X and CANNOT move Y
Side View **CAN** Move Z and **CAN** Move Y (Despite Restrict To X being set, which should mean you can only move in the X axis...)

This was fixed by restarting the application, which also fixed all the CSG options being greyed out (another person has had that problem too see thread "CSG Union and Lite Version"). Seems to be behaving itself now, wish I could figure out what caused it.


You're quite right - you should not be able to move in the Side view when X-restriction is on. If you manage to reproduce that behaviour somehow, please let me know. Smile

The CSG commands being greyed out error will be fixed in the next release.

grahama wrote:

How do I get "Deled Pro User" on my details over there <---- ?


I just set the DeleD PRO user details for you (it's a manual change we admin's perform on each user individually). Smile
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