DeleD Community Edition

[Daaark]

Here are the reasons I don't like the new colour picker, as PJ asked. You're right about the lack of alpha in the old one, and no HSV. That's not the problem anyways, that part works well. The problem is ease of use.

No quick presets -- You assume I know the values for every color I want to enter or that I want to spend time finding the exact shade needed, instead of just clicking on some blueish green colour in the presets box (like before).

Can't save any custom presets. The old deled didn't have the customs button functional, but I never got around to reporting it. It's easy to implelment in the standard dialog, just need an array of COLORREFs saved out to deled.ini

It doesn't initialize with the previously selected colour, making you have to hunt it down again. Obviously white is 255,255,255... but when you just spent ten minutes finding a shade of white with hints of blue and green, this kills you.

[Paul-Jan]

Thanks, this is exactly what I hoped you would do!

I have separated this reply in two parts. First the down-to-business-no-nonense summary, then a little explanation why things work like they do now (which you can freely ignore of course, just a little insight ).

1. Will be added. If there exists anything better than the default windows dialog, please point us to it.

2. Will be added.

3. Will be fixed where applicable.

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And now the longwinding remarks:

1. Actually, no I didn't assume that. Reasoning from my personal workflow, I either now exactly what color I need because I am tweaking, or I don't really care about the exact shade. In the first case I use RGB (which, through this new dialog, is a lot quicker accessible... the old one was horrible), in the second case I use the default value of some hue from the huebar (one click). Note how this is not application-specific, I do it this way in all the graphics (both 2d and 3d) applications I have. Are you saying all those other programs are wrong for not offering the presets? Or _do_ they have them, and I just don't know because I have no need for them?

2. We knew the old dialog didn't support it. That, and the things named above, led us to believe people weren't using this functionality. Apperently, you were

3. Neither did the old dialog, except for material settings. Things haven't changed since.

I am guessing the new dialog will be rather big

[Daaark]

1 and 2. Like this? The presets and custom are staples in every app I use. I post this just as an example colour picker, not something I think you need to copy. (I wish the coders would stop going cheap on the custom colours entries! I could fill over 500 of them given enough time!) I think codeguru.com has lots of colour picker examples.


3. The old one did retain the colour choice. If I selected pink then I clicked to open the colour chooser, pink would still be selected. I tested this just now to confirm. I'm speaking about using the presets though, I'm not sure if it would remember some random rgb I entered.

[Paul-Jan]

First of all, I love what gif-converting did to that SV-grid, groovy

Ad 1) Ok, so this is _not_ how you would like it implemented, but what _would_ you like? I like the blender approach of storing the presets underneath the main grid, and then I'd probably stick the basic colors on the left hand side, something like that. Maybe we should do this the other way around: I'll do a proposal with a mockup screenshot and post it here so people can comment

Ad 3) Exactly, it only remembers presets, it doesn't remember the color.

[Daaark]

1) Layout is not an issue to me. Do whatever is easy for you. Just as long as the functionality is there!