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chronozphere DeleD PRO user
Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 1010 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:14 pm Post subject: DeleD requires internet access. |
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Hey guys,
This is quite disturbing. My firewall complains about DeleD seeking access to the internet.
192.186.1.37 is the IP-adress of my computer within my local network. I don't know why ICMP is used.
Can anyone comment on this? Is this some kind of virus? Any way to track down the source of the problem? |
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Paul-Jan Site Admin
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 3066 Location: Lage Zwaluwe
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:44 am Post subject: |
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Woah, disturbing indeed!
Basically, there are three options:
- Your firewall is mistaken,
- You are indeed suffering from a virus.
- There is a hidden component in DeleD that tries to ping somewhere. (???)
Is this your home-build development version or one of the released binaries? If you build it yourself that rules out some possibilities (and introduces some new ones). You might be able to "pause" inside the Delphi IDE when this dialog is showing, and take a look at the call stack. |
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Nocturn DeleD PRO user
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 635
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:53 am Post subject: |
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I've experienced that too since the CE Version. I've BackTracked which Application on my system (xpsp3) wants to send data about DeleD and it's the Windows Explorer (explorer.exe). If you have a kind of sophisticated Software Firewall that is very sensible you should know that the Explorer sends pretty much data (and guessing from the encrypted junk it want's usually to know which application, version, directx version and so on...). OR what else could trigger the Firewall is if you clicked from the Plugin-menu "Download more..." or any other link to the internet from DeleD.
If it's something bad you need to investigate more but it does not look unusual to me. If you block DeleD (what i recommend) it should still run without any problems. |
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chronozphere DeleD PRO user
Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 1010 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:20 am Post subject: |
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DeleD still runs after blocking it. Actually, it's even usable while the firewall popup is showing (which means there's probably some threading going on).
I'm afraid it was the DeleD CE release I was running here.
It happened when I left my PC idle for a while. When I came back, the popup was there.
I tried wireshark to see what it was sending. I couldn't make anything out of it, as I didn't know which program sent what. It seemed like it was pinging some kind of computer of my ISP (did an Nslookup on the adress).
If anyone knows a way of capturing network activity for a specific process, I'd like to know about it. |
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granada Team member
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 1955 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Not had that problem yet !!,I seem to remember those corridor prefabs .
Dave _________________ AMD Phenom(tm)IIx6 1090t Processor 3.20 GHS
8.00 GB memory
Windows 7 64 bit
Nvida Geforce GTX 580 |
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chronozphere DeleD PRO user
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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,I seem to remember those corridor prefabs Wink .
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Did you made 'em? Me likes! |
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granada Team member
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 1955 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Did you made 'em? Me likes! |
A long time ago i think,not as easy as i thought if i remember.Trying to get the parts to fit together was hard.Still thinking of making them again.
Dave _________________ AMD Phenom(tm)IIx6 1090t Processor 3.20 GHS
8.00 GB memory
Windows 7 64 bit
Nvida Geforce GTX 580 |
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AWM Mars Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 1195 Location: Wilts England
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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I pinged the url, it doesn't go anywhere... maybe its a local host? |
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adr Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2005 Posts: 165
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:46 am Post subject: |
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you said you ping it yes? What was the ip address? |
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AWM Mars Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 1195 Location: Wilts England
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:06 am Post subject: |
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you said you ping it yes? What was the ip address? |
It shows the IP address in the firewall report (192.168.1.37) I added a http:// to it and put that into IE and Traceroute.
Might be worth trying a search at http://whois.com..... this is what I got.
OrgName: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
OrgID: IANA
Address: 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
City: Marina del Rey
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 90292-6695
Country: US
NetRange: 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255
CIDR: 192.168.0.0/16
NetName: IANA-CBLK1
NetHandle: NET-192-168-0-0-1
Parent: NET-192-0-0-0-0
NetType: IANA Special Use
NameServer: BLACKHOLE-1.IANA.ORG
NameServer: BLACKHOLE-2.IANA.ORG
Comment: This block is reserved for special purposes.
Comment: Please see RFC 1918 for additional information.
Comment: http://www.arin.net/reference/rfc/rfc1918.txt
RegDate: 1994-03-15
Updated: 2007-11-27
OrgAbuseHandle: IANA-IP-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Number
OrgAbusePhone: +1-310-301-5820
OrgAbuseEmail:
OrgTechHandle: IANA-IP-ARIN
OrgTechName: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Number
OrgTechPhone: +1-310-301-5820
OrgTechEmail:
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2010-01-31 20:00
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
#
# ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use
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Paul-Jan Site Admin
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 3066 Location: Lage Zwaluwe
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Good searching, and yes it's the local address if his machine.
In the first post, Chronozphere writes:
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192.186.1.37 is the IP-adress of my computer within my local network. |
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chronozphere DeleD PRO user
Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 1010 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:10 am Post subject: |
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I don't think this is a "delphi virus" because I the IDE itsself seeks ICMP access too. so it's unlikely that the access is requested by some component of DeleD. the external adress: 195.241.77.55.
I did an nslookup and the corresponding name was: ns3.tiscali.nl (a machine of my ISP).
I don't think we need to worry about this. Guess it's just a Win7 driver (or my firewall) acting weird or something. |
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AWM Mars Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 1195 Location: Wilts England
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chronozphere DeleD PRO user
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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I never use that menu item, so i guess that doesn't cause DeleD to seek access, especially not over ICMP |
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